%ABotelho, Anthony%APrihar, Ethan%AHeffernan, Neil%D2022%I %K %MOSTI ID: 10355033 %PMedium: X %TDeep Learning or Deep Ignorance? Comparing Untrained Recurrent Models in Educational Contexts. %XThe development and application of deep learning method- ologies has grown within educational contexts in recent years. Perhaps attributable, in part, to the large amount of data that is made avail- able through the adoption of computer-based learning systems in class- rooms and larger-scale MOOC platforms, many educational researchers are leveraging a wide range of emerging deep learning approaches to study learning and student behavior in various capacities. Variations of recurrent neural networks, for example, have been used to not only pre- dict learning outcomes but also to study sequential and temporal trends in student data; it is commonly believed that they are able to learn high- dimensional representations of learning and behavioral constructs over time, such as the evolution of a students’ knowledge state while working through assigned content. Recent works, however, have started to dis- pute this belief, instead finding that it may be the model’s complexity that leads to improved performance in many prediction tasks and that these methods may not inherently learn these temporal representations through model training. In this work, we explore these claims further in the context of detectors of student affect as well as expanding on exist- ing work that explored benchmarks in knowledge tracing. Specifically, we observe how well trained models perform compared to deep learning networks where training is applied only to the output layer. While the highest results of prior works utilizing trained recurrent models are found to be superior, the application of our untrained-versions perform compa- rably well, outperforming even previous non-deep learning approaches. Keywords: Deep Learning · LSTM · Echo State Network · Affect · Knowledge Tracing. Country unknown/Code not availablehttps://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-11644-5_23OSTI-MSA